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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the CRA of 1977 was ill thought out and don&#039;t forget the changes made under the Clinton administration that effectively made the situation even worse. Unfortunately Bush I had a good chance at enacting change before Clinton even took office, with a republican congress, but failed to do so. But that&#039;s neither here nor there. The point is, you&#039;re too quick to say that there&#039;s a single &quot;root&quot; cause. The CRA doesn&#039;t even apply to most financial institutions. Sure it&#039;s a part of the problem, but not the singular reason for the problem. Both parties, the banks, and those who took out bad loans are to blame for this. It&#039;s so complex and convoluted, to even say that there&#039;s a single moment in time that causes this whole problem is just silly. I&#039;m sick of Dems saying it was Republicans and vice versa or those that would blame just minorities or the poor. That&#039;s just more bureaucracy that I just have no tolerance for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the CRA of 1977 was ill thought out and don&#8217;t forget the changes made under the Clinton administration that effectively made the situation even worse. Unfortunately Bush I had a good chance at enacting change before Clinton even took office, with a republican congress, but failed to do so. But that&#8217;s neither here nor there. The point is, you&#8217;re too quick to say that there&#8217;s a single &#8220;root&#8221; cause. The CRA doesn&#8217;t even apply to most financial institutions. Sure it&#8217;s a part of the problem, but not the singular reason for the problem. Both parties, the banks, and those who took out bad loans are to blame for this. It&#8217;s so complex and convoluted, to even say that there&#8217;s a single moment in time that causes this whole problem is just silly. I&#8217;m sick of Dems saying it was Republicans and vice versa or those that would blame just minorities or the poor. That&#8217;s just more bureaucracy that I just have no tolerance for.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPMom Note: you heard it here first</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13931</link>
		<dc:creator>GOPMom Note: you heard it here first</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wrench</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13929</link>
		<dc:creator>wrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was unfortunate timing that the CFMA was signed in to law when the credit markets were already in such a bad shape.

The CFMA accelerated the exposure and ultimate collapse of the market. BUT the CFMA did not cause the issue, lax consumer credit processes are the root cause.  These processes are based on federal policies enacted during previous administrations.  The rot started with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 (Jimmy Carter).

The goal of these liberal sponsored acts was to increase home ownership to people who would normally be rejected. (Rejected for GOOD reason - inability to pay)

The problem with these (and the root cause of the collapse) is they placed more importance on the entitlement to own a house, overlooking the ability to pay the mortgage.  These soft lending practices, while initially aimed at home ownership, spilled over into other lines such as credit cards and auto loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was unfortunate timing that the CFMA was signed in to law when the credit markets were already in such a bad shape.</p>
<p>The CFMA accelerated the exposure and ultimate collapse of the market. BUT the CFMA did not cause the issue, lax consumer credit processes are the root cause.  These processes are based on federal policies enacted during previous administrations.  The rot started with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 (Jimmy Carter).</p>
<p>The goal of these liberal sponsored acts was to increase home ownership to people who would normally be rejected. (Rejected for GOOD reason &#8211; inability to pay)</p>
<p>The problem with these (and the root cause of the collapse) is they placed more importance on the entitlement to own a house, overlooking the ability to pay the mortgage.  These soft lending practices, while initially aimed at home ownership, spilled over into other lines such as credit cards and auto loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13886</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly the bill that you&#039;re touting to be McCain&#039;s great forsight was written by Sen. Hagel (R) (who is also the sponsor of the new version) - who travelled to Iraq with Obama and was in the same meeting where Obama supposedly broke federal law, i.e., the Logan Act. Ah, the world is a small place - both parties are in the same tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly the bill that you&#8217;re touting to be McCain&#8217;s great forsight was written by Sen. Hagel (R) (who is also the sponsor of the new version) &#8211; who travelled to Iraq with Obama and was in the same meeting where Obama supposedly broke federal law, i.e., the Logan Act. Ah, the world is a small place &#8211; both parties are in the same tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13885</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Ann,

Here are some facts: over the past 10 years Freddie Mac has given 57% of its lobby dollars to republicans, the other 43% went to democrats. I can&#039;t verify the figures for Fannie Mae, but it&#039;s something like 52% democrat 48% republican over the same time frame. Now, before you argue that in recent years democrats like Obama received a larger slice of the pie - remember this: the democrats are now the majority. If the republicans were still the majority, the money would have continued to go in their direction. These corporations are smart and they&#039;re not going to buy influence from those who don&#039;t hold sway. They want to make money, stay unregulated, and have government protection when they collapse - no matter what party is in power. Neither party has said &quot;oh no, please stop giving me money.&quot; Even John McCain, who took in a paltry amount from these companies in the past couple years didn&#039;t say &quot;stick it&quot; - which he should have done on principle, not to mention it was such a small sum that he really could have gone without it - but he didn&#039;t he&#039;s just as greedy as the rest of the politicians and will take whatever he can from whoever is handing it out. 

McCain did try to take some initiative for regulation, I agree:

&quot;I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If CONGRESS does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.&quot;

However, the original bill S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, that McCain cosponsored stalled in the 109th congress (which was republican), specifically the last action taken on the bill was on  Jul 28, 2005 by the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs - which was at the time chaired by Richard Shelby (R). Democrats aren&#039;t wholly unresponsible, but the power did lie with the republicans and stalled in a republican chaired committee. 

The bill was reintroduced as S. 1100 in April of 2007 and is still active; however, John McCain&#039;s is not one of the cosponsors this time around. This time Democrats are the party in power and I fully expect the same thing to come out of this as came out of the republican congress: nothing at all (besides it a moot point now). 

The last piece of actual legislation that people point to as part of the blame is the COMMODITY FUTURES MODERNIZATION ACT of 2000. &quot;This important new law creates a flexible structure for regulation of futures trading, codifies an agreement between the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) and the Securities and Exchange Commission to repeal the 18-year old ban on trading single stock futures and provides legal certainty for the over-the-counter derivatives markets.&quot; Certainly this piece of deregulation didn&#039;t help things out and it was sponsored by republicans and passed by a republican congress, but and signed into law by democrat Bill Clinton.

The truth of the matter is that we don&#039;t really have anyone willing to stand up to these companies. Both sides are making bad decisions and we&#039;re getting stuck with the bill - as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Ann,</p>
<p>Here are some facts: over the past 10 years Freddie Mac has given 57% of its lobby dollars to republicans, the other 43% went to democrats. I can&#8217;t verify the figures for Fannie Mae, but it&#8217;s something like 52% democrat 48% republican over the same time frame. Now, before you argue that in recent years democrats like Obama received a larger slice of the pie &#8211; remember this: the democrats are now the majority. If the republicans were still the majority, the money would have continued to go in their direction. These corporations are smart and they&#8217;re not going to buy influence from those who don&#8217;t hold sway. They want to make money, stay unregulated, and have government protection when they collapse &#8211; no matter what party is in power. Neither party has said &#8220;oh no, please stop giving me money.&#8221; Even John McCain, who took in a paltry amount from these companies in the past couple years didn&#8217;t say &#8220;stick it&#8221; &#8211; which he should have done on principle, not to mention it was such a small sum that he really could have gone without it &#8211; but he didn&#8217;t he&#8217;s just as greedy as the rest of the politicians and will take whatever he can from whoever is handing it out. </p>
<p>McCain did try to take some initiative for regulation, I agree:</p>
<p>&#8220;I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If CONGRESS does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, the original bill S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, that McCain cosponsored stalled in the 109th congress (which was republican), specifically the last action taken on the bill was on  Jul 28, 2005 by the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs &#8211; which was at the time chaired by Richard Shelby (R). Democrats aren&#8217;t wholly unresponsible, but the power did lie with the republicans and stalled in a republican chaired committee. </p>
<p>The bill was reintroduced as S. 1100 in April of 2007 and is still active; however, John McCain&#8217;s is not one of the cosponsors this time around. This time Democrats are the party in power and I fully expect the same thing to come out of this as came out of the republican congress: nothing at all (besides it a moot point now). </p>
<p>The last piece of actual legislation that people point to as part of the blame is the COMMODITY FUTURES MODERNIZATION ACT of 2000. &#8220;This important new law creates a flexible structure for regulation of futures trading, codifies an agreement between the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) and the Securities and Exchange Commission to repeal the 18-year old ban on trading single stock futures and provides legal certainty for the over-the-counter derivatives markets.&#8221; Certainly this piece of deregulation didn&#8217;t help things out and it was sponsored by republicans and passed by a republican congress, but and signed into law by democrat Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter is that we don&#8217;t really have anyone willing to stand up to these companies. Both sides are making bad decisions and we&#8217;re getting stuck with the bill &#8211; as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13879</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought 2000 and 2004 were bad... The latest with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac makes me furious.. President Bush tired to get legislation passed 5 yrs ago and then again a year ago only to have no doers in the democratic congress stop the bills that would have put the oversites in place to stop the corruption he saw in Wall St...but no... blame it all on Bush...as they have for the past eight years for they have NEVER gotten over the lost in 2000...and never will. McCain&#039;s record has had many times BOTH sides singing his praises for years. Or when he believes what is right he will go for it even if it means IT ISN&#039;T A REPUB IDEA HOW MANY POLITICIANS can say that? That&#039;s because he is NOT a career politician, but a career SENATOR.  only the uneducated and mudslingers who don&#039;t bother to LOOK at the total picture will say otherwise.  LET&#039;S LOOK AT THE NY TIMES of all places at an article from 5 years ago..facts Bush tried to get oversights in place DEMS STOPPED IT COLD.  WHO IS IN BED WITH THE TOP GUYS WHO LEFT FANNIE AND FREDDIE with the second highest contributions with such a short time in the Senate and then they made millions, bolted out of Freddie and Fannie and oops 40 some odd days before the election everything collapses... seems odd to me...especially when BARACK seems to be following in Kerry&#039;s footsteps and has trouble pinning down an opinion of HIS own and then will criticize his opponent for having THE GUTS for having one and stating IT. AND THIS WILL KEEP US SAFE? Don&#039;t think I want to find out....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought 2000 and 2004 were bad&#8230; The latest with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac makes me furious.. President Bush tired to get legislation passed 5 yrs ago and then again a year ago only to have no doers in the democratic congress stop the bills that would have put the oversites in place to stop the corruption he saw in Wall St&#8230;but no&#8230; blame it all on Bush&#8230;as they have for the past eight years for they have NEVER gotten over the lost in 2000&#8230;and never will. McCain&#8217;s record has had many times BOTH sides singing his praises for years. Or when he believes what is right he will go for it even if it means IT ISN&#8217;T A REPUB IDEA HOW MANY POLITICIANS can say that? That&#8217;s because he is NOT a career politician, but a career SENATOR.  only the uneducated and mudslingers who don&#8217;t bother to LOOK at the total picture will say otherwise.  LET&#8217;S LOOK AT THE NY TIMES of all places at an article from 5 years ago..facts Bush tried to get oversights in place DEMS STOPPED IT COLD.  WHO IS IN BED WITH THE TOP GUYS WHO LEFT FANNIE AND FREDDIE with the second highest contributions with such a short time in the Senate and then they made millions, bolted out of Freddie and Fannie and oops 40 some odd days before the election everything collapses&#8230; seems odd to me&#8230;especially when BARACK seems to be following in Kerry&#8217;s footsteps and has trouble pinning down an opinion of HIS own and then will criticize his opponent for having THE GUTS for having one and stating IT. AND THIS WILL KEEP US SAFE? Don&#8217;t think I want to find out&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: elina</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13875</link>
		<dc:creator>elina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truth. growing fond of the character. still for someone(if one)gifted with undeniable intellect and almost pugnacious accuracy concerning information,the slightly bitter,&quot;of the idealist hook&quot; tone ring out of tune.i must admit i am rather pique by person behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truth. growing fond of the character. still for someone(if one)gifted with undeniable intellect and almost pugnacious accuracy concerning information,the slightly bitter,&#8221;of the idealist hook&#8221; tone ring out of tune.i must admit i am rather pique by person behind.</p>
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		<title>By: wrench</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13874</link>
		<dc:creator>wrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOPMOM is the only one writing with the moniker of GOPMOM.
I check every comment, no one has tried to impersonate MOM yet.
No one could come close to her anyway :)

wrench</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOPMOM is the only one writing with the moniker of GOPMOM.<br />
I check every comment, no one has tried to impersonate MOM yet.<br />
No one could come close to her anyway <img src='http://www.gopmom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>wrench</p>
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		<title>By: elina</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13873</link>
		<dc:creator>elina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how many are writing as GOPMOM??it looks like at least two or three people,unless it is  an omnipresent schizophrenic shiva of mom with Tourette syndrome.
something verrrry wrrrong with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how many are writing as GOPMOM??it looks like at least two or three people,unless it is  an omnipresent schizophrenic shiva of mom with Tourette syndrome.<br />
something verrrry wrrrong with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gopmom.com/2008/09/gopmom-note-the-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-13872</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But remember Gopmom you insinuated that it was biased twice:

&quot;But remember, it had â€˜NYTimesâ€ in the url - surely you must have expected a bit of bias.&quot;

&quot;But remember, ATG, Harvard is not exactly an unbiased institution - so anyone with a diploma just might have been exposed to a few unsavory principles, in my view.&quot;

I&#039;ll state it simple - an article is either biased or not based on its content. It&#039;s our responsiblity to be critical readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But remember Gopmom you insinuated that it was biased twice:</p>
<p>&#8220;But remember, it had â€˜NYTimesâ€ in the url &#8211; surely you must have expected a bit of bias.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But remember, ATG, Harvard is not exactly an unbiased institution &#8211; so anyone with a diploma just might have been exposed to a few unsavory principles, in my view.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll state it simple &#8211; an article is either biased or not based on its content. It&#8217;s our responsiblity to be critical readers.</p>
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